"When you begin to think outside the box, you often become some other "leaders" lousy follower. That usually costs something" (Andy Rayner)

"Our guardian angels are bored." (Mike Foster)

It's where I feel I'm at these days. “In the second half of life, it is good just to be a part of the general dance. We do not have to stand out, make defining moves, or be better than anyone else on the dance floor. Life is more participatory than assertive, and there is no need for strong or further self-definition” (Falling Upward. Richard Rohr.120).

Wednesday, July 28, 2010

Who's the Tough Guy!

Forgive the language, but I think he's correct as far as NGO, and spiritual work in places such as Africa. Need to know who's the barrier to your work. Get to know him!

"Last year in one of my grad school classes that was specifically designed to prepare for PC my professor walked into the room, turned on the projector, and put up a slide that said,
  • Every village has a son of a bitch. Your job is to find out who that person is."

Peace Corp Worker

Tuesday, July 27, 2010

Live to Work, or Work to Live?

Interesting comment by a Peace Corps worker, about his Malian host people, in Mali, West Africa.
Time with people really is better than money. Not certain we can ever understand that well int he west.
Clearly this is a work to live culture, not one in which people live to work. You are not defined by what you do, but simply by your existence and your interactions with others.This is difficult for me. I come from the upper mid-west. A very German sort of place where what you do with yourself is important. You live to work. Productivity is valuable. Time spent sitting around with friends not "doing" anything is viewed as time wasted... and there's nothing worse than wasting time in America."

Matt, May 7, 2010,
www. mattinwestafrica.blogspot.com/2010/05/interesting-short-stories-and-excerpts.html

Saturday, July 24, 2010

Begin A Church Experiment!

"A quick but important point: If you recognize that you are a part of a traditional-attractional church structure, don’t punt! The best response is to create the missional pyramid from scratch with a few missional people of your choice and start right where you are. If you leave, nothing beneficial will happen in your church. But if you—with a humble desire to influence or model a new way—launch out with a few friends while staying connected to your church, you’ll not only enjoy the freedom of being on mission, you’ll be able to influence and inspire more people within the existing structure to change.

When Matt and I work with attractional churches to help them become more missional, we never try to change or challenge the present structure. Instead, we ask for a small handful of would-be missionaries to pilot incarnational community. If it works, then we believe the grassroots success will spread to more people in the existing structure. Most pastors have no reason not to want this experiment to succeed. They want you to live out this calling, but part of their calling is to also hold the saints together. Structures don’t change easily through challenge or critique. They change best as people within the organization change and model new approaches. So, instead of pointing your finger at your pastor or elder board, go live out this ancient way and pray for the larger community to eventually move forward with you. If you’re a pastor and you’re ready to move on this, we suggest the same thing. Call some friends together and begin a beautiful underground experiment. If it works, you’ll have helped move your church into new territory. If it doesn’t, you’ll have a great time with a few friends. How bad can that be?

(Tangible Kingdom. Hugh Halter, pg 121. 2008, Jossey-Bass)

Friday, July 23, 2010

Doing Our Part With Those Before Us!

“I shall pass through this world but once. Any good thing, therefore, that I can do or any kindness that I can show to any human being, let me do it now! Let me not defer or neglect it, for I shall not pass this way again.”
Stephen Grellet,

Paid To Love Us?

Interesting comments about identifying with people as missionaries, since these men see themselves as missionaries to western nations. However, their insights are keen, and we would all wish more westernes would live, interact, and engage their culture this way.

"Urban Neighbours of Hope (UNOH) in Melbourne and the InnerChange workers in San Francisco, identification with the poor is an absolutely fundamental principle to their mission among the poor. All the missionaries and workers in these two missionary orders voluntarily live under the poverty line and refuse to be paid by their organizations for their work among the poor lest the people say, “you are paid to be kind to us.” They choose to live like the people with all the struggles and problems that poverty creates for people without power and resources. This incarnational act not only creates credibility for the missionaries, but it thus creates the relational- social context within which they can meaningfully and humanly share their faith. Because it means that for all intents and purposes, they have actually become part of the people group that they are trying to reach and have thereby overcome a very significant cultural barrier to the communication of the gospel. To identify incarnationally with a people will mean that we must try to enter into something of the cultural life of a “people’; to seek to understand their perspectives, their grievances and causes, in other words their real existence, in such a way as to genuinely reflect the act of identification that God made with us in Jesus.........................


"......incarnational mission implies a real and abiding incarnational presence among a group of people. Quite simply, it means that if you want to reach the local gangstas, you are going to have to live where they live and hang out where they hang out. Or it might mean that if you want to plant a church in a given suburb, you should really think about living there. Why? Because you cannot become part of the organic life of a given community if you are not present to it and do not experience its cultural rhythms, its life, and its geography. ................This is true whether they are the local ravers or members of bohemian art cooperatives, sports dubs, common interest groups, or parent groups—we need to identify a whole lot more before we can expect to really share Jesus in a meaningful way with them."


(The Shape Of Things To Come: Innovation and Mission For The 21st- Century Church. Michael Frost & Aln Hirsch, Hendrickson, 2003. pp 38

Tuesday, July 20, 2010

Reading Peace Corps Journals is A Blast!

There is a great iPhone/iPad/iPod. App called "PcJournals". It lists every country where the US has PC workers. It shows all the blogs of all the workers and tells you when they have updated. Of course I have been enjoying the Mali, West Africa blogs.
Some of the workers have been there a while (normally serve 2 yr terms). Others have just arrived.
However, the stories and encounters they share in print are amazingly interesting and hilarious to read and follow. For example, this first impression posted today by a girl just arriving for her PC Mali assignment. Too funny!

"My first impression of Peace Corps – two dozen scared faces clutching blue invitation kits."

Monday, July 19, 2010

More "us" than "them" Whats up with that?

I wonder how God might lead us if we were more concerned about being a “friend of sinners” than a friend to those inside our church or denomination?"
(Tangible Kingdom. Hugh Halter, pg 46. 2008, Jossey-Bass)

Sunday, July 18, 2010

Peace Corps Has It Correct

"I’ve been in Mali a year and three days now. It is a Peace Corps cliché that volunteers enter as typically individualistic, efficient, work-driven, consumption-loving Americans and leave having learnt about what is really important in life - family, friendships, and community."

July 14, 2010 Lauren Biggs, Peace Corps worker in Mali
Www.koyanmali.bloodspot.com

Reversed Thinking!

Hugh Halter Examing the Culture put it this way

Traditional Church People Enter Relationships and the church this way:
1. Believe
2. Behave,
3. Belong

We expect people to believe & behave like us before we will ever consider letting them belong with us.

Post Moderns Will only Enter this Way:
1 Belong.
2. Behave
3. Believe

It's been reversed! The Church missed that the last 25 years. We have to spend time with them and love them where they are. We must juninly accept them where they are so that they "really" belong. Over time they may begin to behave as we rub off on them. As they see the kingdom life lived out by being friends with us, they will catch a glimpse of Jesus's way. Then they will come to believe.

What this means is that up front - no strings attached relationship is the starting point. Can we just love them and enjoy them, and value our relationship with them, even if they never, ever choose join the church, the assembly of the redeemed, in Jesus?

"Remember, there’s one thing that is just as important as truth, and maybe even more important. That is whether or not someone is willing or ready to receive truth. An environment of discovery is the only way we’re going to help people experience an alternative opportunity. Helping them make a personal “preference” for Christ and his life will always be more powerful than bashing their values. This doesn’t mean we don’t get to speak and teach truth. It just means we're better missionaries if we letthem experience it before we start debating it."

(Tangible Kingdom. Hugh Halter, pg 66. 2008, Jossey-Bass)

Saturday, July 17, 2010

Why, How, Were To Do Mission

"There is not only a Spirit of truth but also a spirit of falsehood, who is able to delude, drug, bewitch & Even blind people" John Stott

"Misssional at its essence means sent. It's the antithesis of trying to attract them to us, our programs, our buildings.." Hugh Halter in Tangible Kingdom


"Risk more than others think is safe.
Care more than others think is wise.
Dream more than others think is practical.
Expect more than others think is possible "

Cadet Maxim West Point Military

Friday, July 16, 2010

Physical or Spiritual Needs?

Amy Carmichael
Took in abandoned baby girls, rescued girls from temple prostitution in India, educated them & taught trades. She was asked;
“Why don’t you concentrate on saving their souls?”
Her reply was,
“I find their souls are very stubbornly attached to their bodies.”

Thursday, July 15, 2010

Balance Between "Missional and "Attractional Church?

The "Balance" between "Missional" & "Attractional" church has been the big conversation for a few years now.

Two Observations.
1. This statement assumes living "Missional" is, somehow, an extreme to be avoided. It's some how not "Balanced" to be "too Missional". Are you kidding me? How can anyone be too missional? What does "too missional" look like? What exactly do they mean by balanced "mission"?'

2. Those talking about the "Balance" are very deeply steeped in, and working within, a highly "attractional" Church model. They are immersed in a method of churching that, frankly, needs people to show up, and give significant doses of cash to support this church and it's style of doing things, or, or that model fails.

I'm not being negative. However, I just noticed this lately; that those talking about the "balance" between missional & attractional are in highly attractional, and costly, ministry styles.

Can one be too missional? What does that mean? Explain that to me. I think it's meaningless rhetoric, and frankly they are embarrassed to say much about it, other than, "Balance is needed".

Would we tell a missionary not to leave his comfortable church in Canada, and don't go to that village where there is poverty and unreached people? Stay here in your church! Work from this base! Certainly not! We release missionaries, to new places, and to develop structures that work for the people they minister too. Yet we are afraid to release members to do the same thing here? Stay within this structure and work from here. Do it the same way as us! Why? I am not advocating everyone leave their attractional churches for "cafe" church. I'm leading a new attractional church plant now.

But what do we mean by too missional, and "Balance"? We have not had nearly enough "imbalance" when it comes to missional living posture. I think it's both/and - any kind and every kind of church and movement, in every kind of location, size, and place, is not only needed - but required. I say, bless them all. But do release people to serve, everywhere, every way. Let them make mistakes, and big mistakes in the process, without crushing criticism. Just get out with people and serve

I'm puzzled at why we are afraid to release members to go on "mission" for themselves. Was this not the reason, the stated purpose, the goal of all of this teaching, training, and programs we do? To get people serving? Or have we only been training them to serve our purposes, and recruiting them to our goals, and our visions? Has the truth come out, that we are really not into helping, training, and then releasing, people to do their ministry at all- we do it to recruit them to OUR ministry? (I've been in ministry and church planting long enough, at enough meetings, to admit this sadly is true. We need them to do what we set out to do! I believe this is the root of the fear over the call for "Balance" from top down leadership model people)
Because, frankly, if too many got released, our way, my current way of doing church growth would, well, fall apart.

I hope my new church falls apart, as more and more members fall into serving as missionaries in the world, and this community, all over the place.

I release you!

Monday, July 12, 2010

Is there a Place for Traditional Pastoring?

There certainly is. We have gotten to where we are through the teaching and time of these men. They have invested in us deeply. However, new movements need not be viewed as a threat by the traditional approach, nor should the new movements view their activity as the "Death" of the old ways.

Interesting section.

"The hundreds of pastors with whom we’ve shared our story love unchurched folks as much as our edgiest church planters, but they are also responsible to keep a church structure afloat, one that signifies safety and survival for themselves and their parishioners. It’s not an enviable position. I used to judge these leaders as weak, or unwilling, or even worse, unloving toward the harvest field. But now I’ve come to believe that they are just as important as the brave, arrogant, pioneer pastors. They are the shepherds; the ones who can help the pioneers take risks. They are the ones with the resources, people, and facilities who can help out the fledgling mushroom eaters.

Would it be okay to consider that there are degrees of missionality! That some will be sent to cross blue seas, cross cultures, and go to the far reaches of paganism in order to find the one lost sheep, while others may just need to be sent across the street? Is it possible that God doesn’t need nor ask everyone to start something new? Is it possible that God needs millions of leaders to care for a host of Christians who won’t be able to make the turn into new forms of church? I think so.. . . I think we must.
The transition within the U.S. church doesn’t require that we all travel on the same ship, but we must all sail on the same sea. Even in Adullam, we have some shepherding types, men and women who’ve been in the faith and in traditional churches a long while, are solid students of the Bible, and who love the mission of Adullam. They support and encourage us, but they never try to take over and dictate. They trust our hearts and our mission and give us a wide berth to be ourselves and follow what we feel to be God’s way of being church. They don’t waste time complaining; they cheer, and they roll up their shirtsleeves whenever they can, to help when they can. As someone who has lived my life meeting folks at the crossroads of culture, I have learned that I can’t sustain this life and ministry without the encouragement, funding, and long-term help of the stable caregivers.

Within every congregation there are people at every level of willingness, strength, and maturity. I liken these Christians to bricks in the under-structure of a bridge that reaches out to the other side of the river. They aren’t going to make it across the bridge. They may not fill churches with new Christ followers, they may not even be people you want your non-Christian friends to meet, but they can help support the old and new structures that will allow the others to go out."

(Tangible Kingdom. Hugh Halter, pg 34, 2008, Jossey-Bass)

Sunday, July 11, 2010

Jesus First, Church Second, Every Time!

I am not against the church. Nor am I negative. Actually, I have a greater passion to see her advance, than many in the pew. However, most christians I know will talk to people about "Coming to Church", or come to this awesome "event" at our church. It becomes more about the bride than the groom. Jesus is center stage to Christianity. Yet few give the invitation to Jesus. Church means nothing to unbelievers. The words of the songs, the meditation of the communion will not minister to people who have not believed it.

I think the devil laughs with joy when we make it about church first. Becuse he knows so many people have been burned by "church", or are to bored to death with what the average church is doing (members included) that he does not have to worry to much about us infringing on his territory. We are not approaching much of anything that is his. Make it about Jesus, and once they get a glimpse of him, the fellowship, and the purposes of the "Ekklessia" "Assembly" "Church" will become rich. Don't put the cart before the horse.
I gave this advice to a graduating Seminary ministry candidate (Exactly this blog title), and I know he thought he knew this, is this not what we do now? After his first twenty meetings, he will soon see how little Jesus spoken about, and how much "church" takes the attention.
"As I once heard, “Doing church differently is like rearranging chairs on the Titanic.” We must realize that slight tweaks, new music, creative lighting, wearing hula shirts, shorts, and flip-flops won’t make doing church more attractive. Church must not be the goal of the gospel anymore. Church should not be the focus of our efforts or the banner we hold up to explain what we’re about. Church should be what ends up happening as a natural response to people wanting to follow us, be with us, and be like us as we are following the way of Christ.

(Tangible Kingdom. Hugh Halter, pg 30, 2008, Jossey-Bass.)


Wednesday, July 7, 2010

Yonggi Cho Depression! & Church COPYISM!


"Many pastors I meet tell me, “I tried it and it did not work!” By my guess, there could be about two hundred thousand pastors worldwide today who suffer from what I call the “Yonggi Cho depression.” David Yonggi Cho is a most unusual Korean pastor. extremely gifted and capable of leading people and building a church movement.

Many have followed his example and tried to copy him. A very few well-gifted men have even succeeded to some degree, but most have failed. The latter group feel today more guilty and depressed than before, a clear symptom of the pathological pattern of 'COPYISM,' a dangerous and deadly disease that has stricken many churches around the globe today.

But Pastor Cho’s message has never been “Copy me, and you will get the same results.” Instead, he wants people to obey God and learn from the church-growth principles that God has shown him.

Let us slip into the devil’s shoes for a few seconds: isn’t “copyism” a perfect trap? For many churches, everything starts so wonderfully. Someone experiences God’s blessing because he or she has been obedient to His Word and Spirit. Someone else tells the story and a third person creates a model out of this experience, which is then copied and cloned by a fourth person. A fifth person finally suggests, “Let’s create an institution around this new model!” He goes on to start franchises all over the world. The sixth person forms this way of doing things into a new “law,” which judges everyone who chooses to do things differently. Here then are “six sure and easy steps to transform a blessing into a curse.” If we put our hands to the plow and then look back—or abroad—how dare we think we are fit for the work in the Kingdom of God? (Luke 9:62).

It is high time that we resurrected and nurtured all that good, creative, and powerful potential that our Creator put into all of us long ago, which is nearly suffocating under too many layers of copied blessings. To do so would mean that we have to continually learn and research the ways that God is winning people to Himself and His church in our part of the world and in our society and culture. Could it be that our addiction to “successful” church models actually reveals a deep a deep leadership crisis and a widespread insecurity about what we should do?" Even more dangerous, could our wish for success reveal a serious deafness to what the Holy Spirit is trying to say to our churches about what we need to repent and get rid of?

But let us remain realistic. Statistics reveal that 80 percent of all pastors will simply copy other models and programs. Fifteen percent of all pastors will change the models to make them fit better. Only 5 percent are true inventors of their own models.

(Wolfgang Simson, "The House Church Book." Barna, 2009, pg 137-138)

The West is Best? Brokeness Is Everywhere

"I once heard some young Christians from the United States talking about some outreach they were doing in Calcutta. They had genuine tears of brokenness in their eyes as they talked about the people worshiping dead idols in temples, yet these young people did not recognize the idols of sports, music, and television being worshiped in their own country. They had broken hearts over the abject poverty in Calcutta, but they did not see the spiritual and emotional poverty of the countless millions suffering from loneliness and meaninglessness in the United States. While they could not believe that people sacrifice flowers and even animals to their gods, they overlooked the fact that many of us sacrifice children and whole families on the altar of success every day. They marveled at the smoke and incense offerings made to pagan gods but failed to see the smog caused by cars, industry; and cigarette smokers in their own country; They said, “These children here are so dirty!” yet they did not realize that most children in their own country regularly use unbelievably dirty language.

In short, they saw and judged the outside but could not see inside. They were shocked by the culture, but not by the spirit behind it, and they failed to see that it is no better at home than in Asia. Humankind’s fallen and sinful nature only takes on a different outward appearance in different cultures and places; its quality is essentially the same everywhere.

(The House Church Book. Wolfgang Simson. Barna, 2009, pg 134-135)

Plant Churches or Missionaries? Which Comes First?

Which comes first? The more people live the missional life, the more churches will be planted.

"The goal of our missional life is not to grow churches. The goal of the church is to grow missionaries."

(Tangible Kingdom. Hugh Halter, pg 168 2008, Jossey-Bass)

Sunday, July 4, 2010

Get a little Whimsy In Your Holiness!

" (Whimsical Holiness) Whimsy, therefore, allows you to be with people regardless of their angle of life without casting any judgment their way. It paves the way for them to feel comfortable enough to be themselves, feel loved, and dignified as human beings. It... See More’s not making an issue out of anything that’s not the main issue. That simply means we don’t flinch at sin or bad language or nasty T-shirts or crude music or a Sojourner who overindulged. Whimsy may he the missing element of Christlike love in today’s world. It’s the essence of missional posture that helps gain someone’s heart..... The issue isn’t so much about how far you can go to “do evangelism.” Its more about whether or not we will enlarge our view of discipleship to include behaving like Jesus did with the types of people Jesus would always have made a priority. .... Whimsy is the posture we take that allows people to be themselves. Holiness is that quiet inner posture that shines through and subversively witnesses of an alternative way to live. Whimsy implies that you can seamlessly interact in the culture with ease, humor, love, and holiness without being swayed away...."


Hugh Halter, "Tangible Kingdom: Creating Incarnational Community, The Posture and Practices of Ancient Church now." Jossey-Bass. 2010 pg138,139